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[werkflow-user] [Fwd: Re: ping]
Lloyd H. Meinholz
2003-08-22 14:30:56 UTC
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I moved this to werkflow-user since Bob implied this was where it belongs
now. Thanks for the response.

I have a client request to add a basic workflow functionality to an
existing web solution we have built for them. I know very little about
workflow and have been googling for a Java based open source solution
for a couple of days. My clients requirements are very primitive
(compared to what I've found on some workflow standards site) and I
could probably write a simple workflow that would satisfy them myself
fairly easily, but I am anticipating other clients with more
sophisticated requirements. My development environment is apache httpd
and tomcat. I am using struts for my presentation layer and am prepared
to do the presentation development myself, I would just like a basic
workflow engine to plug in to.

I have found very little in the way of howto's and want to find out the
status of the project before I dedicate too much time to figuring out
how to use it. I realize everyone has day jobs and am not trying to be
critical, I just need to understand where the project is. I'm not even
sure if I can just add the werkflow-1.0-beta-6.jar to my web
application and use it or if I need to run some other kind of service,
much less the api to use or anything. I've seen some mention of
integrating with avalon, but I don't use that and am not sure how I
would integrate that with tomcat.

I am also looking at some stuff from OpenSymphony as an alternative,
but I'm so new to both projects, I am a bit lost where to even start
comparison and evaluation...

Is werkflow used as part of the workflow solution ZenPlex offers (the
Dalim software)? No, I have nothing to do with the publishing industry,
just curious if werkflow is being used (some blog entry somewhere led
me to believe no one was actually using werkflow).

Thanks for any pointers/advice,

Lloyd
Is this project still active?
It's not active in the "someone making lots of changes to the source
code every day" sense, but it is active in the "people using it to solve
real problems" sense. There are parts of the code that need work and
there are likely to be bugs that need fixing too, but there are also
people who are interested enough to fix things when they need to.
What are you trying to do?
-Mark.
bob mcwhirter
2003-08-22 14:39:01 UTC
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Post by Lloyd H. Meinholz
I have a client request to add a basic workflow functionality to an
existing web solution we have built for them. I know very little about
workflow and have been googling for a Java based open source solution
for a couple of days. My clients requirements are very primitive
(compared to what I've found on some workflow standards site) and I
could probably write a simple workflow that would satisfy them myself
fairly easily, but I am anticipating other clients with more
sophisticated requirements. My development environment is apache httpd
and tomcat. I am using struts for my presentation layer and am prepared
to do the presentation development myself, I would just like a basic
workflow engine to plug in to.
I have found very little in the way of howto's and want to find out the
status of the project before I dedicate too much time to figuring out
how to use it. I realize everyone has day jobs and am not trying to be
critical, I just need to understand where the project is. I'm not even
sure if I can just add the werkflow-1.0-beta-6.jar to my web
application and use it or if I need to run some other kind of service,
much less the api to use or anything. I've seen some mention of
integrating with avalon, but I don't use that and am not sure how I
would integrate that with tomcat.
werkflow initially hasn't be targetted at UIs, but more towards business
processes. blissed, which is a simpler state-machine, is being used
for UI type of flows.
Post by Lloyd H. Meinholz
I am also looking at some stuff from OpenSymphony as an alternative,
but I'm so new to both projects, I am a bit lost where to even start
comparison and evaluation...
Yah, OSWorkflow is an option, I reckon.
Post by Lloyd H. Meinholz
Is werkflow used as part of the workflow solution ZenPlex offers (the
Dalim software)? No, I have nothing to do with the publishing industry,
just curious if werkflow is being used (some blog entry somewhere led
me to believe no one was actually using werkflow).
No, it's not part of Dalim, but is being using in Tambora, along with
blissed for UI flow, if I recall.

The best docs we have at the moment are:

http://werkflow.codehaus.org/pdf/guide.pdf
Lloyd H. Meinholz
2003-08-22 15:08:52 UTC
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Post by bob mcwhirter
werkflow initially hasn't be targetted at UIs, but more towards business
processes. blissed, which is a simpler state-machine, is being used
for UI type of flows.
That's kind of what I'm looking for. It sounds like bliss might do what
I want it to do and be a little easier to understand, so I'll check that
out.
Post by bob mcwhirter
Post by Lloyd H. Meinholz
I am also looking at some stuff from OpenSymphony as an alternative,
but I'm so new to both projects, I am a bit lost where to even start
comparison and evaluation...
Yah, OSWorkflow is an option, I reckon.
In what ways do you think werkflow is better than OSWorkflow?
Post by bob mcwhirter
http://werkflow.codehaus.org/pdf/guide.pdf
got those already.

Thanks,

Lloyd

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